Yes the market has not been too kind to any of us recently BigPic but fortune shines on the bold and brave. Buy the best stories and when the junior market takes off you will make the most money with the best and fastest growing resource in the safest locals. Production can add value some value but only if it has large potential for growth and profitability. Certainly for those companies who have smallish deposits and mediocre resource size then production is much more important to their profile, this used to be ECU.