Then with all respect due, why not wait and delete my post when you CAN be fair, Ren? Otherwise to just delete mine would be.. well... um... just a wee bit unfair, don't you think? Kind of like to coin a practiced "school-yard bully' tactic of holding one down, while another pulls punches, no? I understand this can be a tough situation as Ump who just happens to start it all is also a HUB leader here.

By the way, also have Tibber share with you the last PM that I also meant for you. I just tried to send it to you but now am not allowed to send PM's for some reason? Go figure?

Anyway, in the spirit of board democracy (it's is alive and well in some places), here goes again only for those who HAVE (and can continue to see) seen Umps this morning but has NOT BEEN PRIVY to the other side of the proverbial coin (mine) before it has been deleted a couple of times already.

Again I beg you to please consider leaving it until you get things figured out otherwise you know what I have to do, that is unless you do to make me disappear, meanwhile (your choice). Not asking for it but understand regardless (PS - Let the record read that I also fight for the weak, hungry and those without a voice...)

See you on the other side guys. (I will be gone of my own doing when umps post is nixed, believe that folks)

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Well here goes nothing;

Ump, I just can't help but feel that you are bringing me up in front of a formal "PLE AGORACOM" tribunal, over our now infamous disagreement on another board, when I though we agreed that it was blown out of proportion and considered it dead. I truly am tired of apologizing when ever I post here, really.

OK then as to my day in court, as you wish, then. I stand before you all guilty as charged, so what's my sentence to be team? Banned?

No support and I will take the hint and leave quietly & voluntarily, with my Louisville dragging and ball in hand, with the dignity of which I joined this fine group...

So with sincere respect, made some good friends (including Darryl at one point) and it’s been fun while it lasted folks... good bye...

2fast out... Just one last <wink> though... Good luck guys (& you too Gwen ;0)