I have to thank cedartree for his very informative post.... very well done with no hype.... I have been beating the KXL drum for years as most people know and when the Kodiak team pulled their first deep hole on Hercules I just sat back and said "OK , thats it ... from what I have seen of the property, no matter what happens in the short term, this is a mine...." and from there it got bigger and better.... amazing that many people do not understand the company or the vast scope of this property .... my belief is that anyone who hangs on to at least 20K shares or more for the next few years will be very well off.... I , along with others, have many more than that... this is a great forum with good people ... I have been offline for awhile getting set up at my cottage for the summer... KXL has already made me enough money so I could retire... now, much more to come... thanks to all the people who make well thought out posts and thanks to Bill C ( who I have met several times) and his crew....