mbgld,...i have posted some trade secrects over on the COU off-topic board so we all can be on the sams playing field. I do under stand your frustrations with San, but CEOs can not control their share price. I do see Winkin, Blinkin and NOD on the other hand have a field day. I look at how they managed to accumulate over 80 million SGR at such a low cost base and realise their game. I sold out my SGR shares and moved over to SKP over the last 3ys and have detailed this on this board, in which alot of members wanted me kicked off the board. I did lose my Hub Leadrer but i still posted accurate information on San, i am one of a few who has got it right as i have repeated the story many a times, but Sans board members just can't see it. I will buy back into San when the time is right, but in the mean time i will stay with the wild animals. I will give you a piece of important info here to do what you want, when you see a target price from an Institution, say Dundee, and they raise their target price to $ 3.80 then in order to get their Bonus they will drive the price to at least $ 4.00. I guess after that the price might dropp back down with a few Wink and a Blink since the bonus was paid. I guess if you keep the share price within your target price you can continue getting your bonus as the long term share holders sit in frustration. I guess you may set a game plan here and sell some SGR at $ 3.90 and buy back in lower, just observe the cross trades for a heads up. I guess if SGR hits $ 4 . then SKP will go to $0 .60 or higher as the market has already given SKP a higher value, as we see from our ten to one ratio, SKP is sitting at $ 3.60 in comparison to SGR at $ 2.78. ..Traps7 Long On The Greens..with out prejudice.......Feng Shui East West