You are quite right about what defines a bottom. My guess is that we will see in 1-2 months whether there is anything to make the stock actually move UP. There appears to be an inner rythm to this stock movements, though at this px it is almost too depressed to see. Scott G. has to work harder at projecting the company to the public. The language translation thing for phones is good--if there is actually anything to it. Also, how about a copying system that actually makes my printer makes us of both sides of my sheets of paper. I can't believe that printer manufacturers have not been able to figure that one out.