gil, i remember....i made my first kry buys in sept/oct 05'.....a few weeks later they issued some exploratory/construction permits for LC and the PPS went from $1.50 to over $3 (then cramer gave a wink-wink)..... the one thing that seems to never fail since i've been here is that when VZ says something, count on the reverse happening soon after.....if hugo came out and said "ju guys go ahead and mine mang, we luv ju guys"...then i'd really be scared...