Wow, Ba, Both you & Ron all the way down the line AGAINST ... hellfire, I thought I was the only s/h who reasoned that way. I agree completely: ANYTHING this crew presents is s/h unfriendly. As the s/p plumbs the depths, I keep thinking this dog may have value as a "Corporate Shell". But the 10k clearly states it isn't. Nonetheless, it still looks to me like someone wants PTSC, for some reason. Thanks for all your work on the Pacers. Thanks to Ron for his consistent insights into the law, and his steady wisdom re: on investing generally.