Don't agree, McWitty, I think they care for us like a lot of companies care about their shareholders - they are interested in our well being and satisfaction and pride level, just like most of us would be in their shoes, but they are not going to go way out of their way.  I do not interpret silence as complacency towards shareholders.  I interpret it as they have nothing good to say now, or there is a darn good reason why they do not give us an update for the sake of secrecy.  I make the proportion of those two items to be about 80-20.