Just a few weeks ago nothing was conveyed to the shareholders, or the investment industry, that even remotely resembled meat.  Such a short amount of time has passed since then, and they wish to do it again.  Something significant  had to have changed.  We tend to get the meat primarily from news releases, and disappointment from these online conference calls.  Possibly this time will be different.  Possibly there will be a news release with meat, and then the conference call to ask relevant questions.  It's time, is it not?