Fwiw I agree with tada, frustrating as the lack of management performance is the forward looking statements cover their collective butts and as long as the big shareholders support them they will remain where they are. I think HL and ORI could make things uncomfortable if they wanted but they seem content to just carry on. I think Jonzobots statement'I hate this company' is probably the best single sentence summary we've ever had, unfortunately if you still like the science it is where you are stuck. I think it is good that HL extended, they must still have confidence in the science.