Ya not sure about that...I was thinking between 8-10 million. I'm pretty sure the 37V forklift battery is something they should be presenting to the public. They have been working on it for awhile now, and with all the different forklifts in the recent presentation....this should give us a good indication that the work is done. Now big orders to fill in 2017. The bus situation is new...so I'm thinking more time is needed....they really haven't said much for some time now. so I hope they spill some beans......