Goldcarp, I see Kimber going nowhere but up. I cannot, nor do I believe anyone can tell any of us when this will happen, however. That's the big question, When? I'd like to think we'll see a mania in the next two years, but who knows. Five years? The dollar is gold's arch enemy, it's opposite. How much longer can the dollar hold out? Five years? Ten years. That seems like a stretch, but some people thought it a stretch in 1971 when Nixon closed the gold window. Once again, who knows? I think we're getting close, however. Personally, I think we're very close to some sort of defining event. Bull