SGE, please continue to post your thoughts. thank you very much for the time and effort. nb.

ps. and as mentioned, the attorneys lost this. if this was as good of a patent as all on this message board were hoping, the case was all legal all the time and our attorneys lost. the board's error would be in choosing the wrong attorneys. and the "board" is Gloria and Charles. Cliff is effectively the administrator for the Company. yes, he is on the board, but being outvoted by Gloria and Charles, his vote never counted. my believe is that Cliff cared more about the shareholders than any other management/board member. and i do not personally know Cliff, i have never called him and the only info i have is from this board and from having attended several annual meetings.