It strikes me as odd to say the least that with all the excellent posters here that we still dont seem to have a good grasp on all this. We have good ``techies`` and those with legal experience. We have the company`s PR of 11/23 (``patriot says it seems to have ownership``)which is a VERY strong statement to give to their shareholders....( and perhaps one they will to explain at a later date). As to Dued ... I have a gutfeeling that dave`s post 372019 is well stated. We wait.......