I have to agree with Turr.. The people on this forum are not the "the public domain",, we are shareholders in PTK, in other words, we own part of the company.. We have every right to the information that the City Investors Circle get.. The fact is,the trip was on our dime so I am not feeling too bad that Sunny managed to scoop this video off You Tube...I am willing to bet that that people on this forum have a lot more money placed on the PTK bet than any City Investors Circle,,at this point.. I think it too bad that the retail shareholders have to scrounge around and get our information off You Tube, but, so be it.. JMHO