Sorry Traps but what happened seven years ago is irrelevant to the fact that the grades do not seem to be what they are reporting and Bay st is on to this. The only way to recover is to start using the High grade (if it exists) to put their worries aside. All they simply have to do is say we are going to run some high grade while we work on th RL mine. This does not seem to be an outrageuos thing to do if you are upfront about it. It sounds like they have enough production from the hinge and other close surface mines to be able to supply the mill with only high grade.