I attended the meeting strictly as an observer and to look Fred straight in the face.  Pat N., sman998, bankerson, and sunpoop have put a lot of time, energy, effort, and some money to get things to this point, and frankly deserve a standing ovation.  Oh, and I also would like to nominate Fred for an Academy Award--the category, most times said "to the best of my knowlege, I don't remember, not sure about that date, and I cannot recall" in three hours.