Re/ Sandra's email, thanks to Packfan. I have forwarded to 6 members that is my limit. Please those 6 - pass onto the last people asking on the list.

FYI, my last 3 posts on here were deleted, so I do not post anymore. I checked with the 4 regular hub leaders and they did not delete, so I figured it is the "would be scientist" that often uses mispelled latin phrases out of context. I prefer ancient greek myself.

To all Zen longs - hang in there, ignore the constant bashing. Take a break and be good to yourself as no #### else is!