Smoky, I see where you are going with saying that ZEN is in dire straits when it comes to a cash crunch. I agree with you on this point. Perhaps the white knight will be a government with further grant monies? Time will tell on that front. I wonder if there is also the possibility that some of the larger and interested NDA companies will spend enough dollars to drill up their own bulk samples?? They could use this material to prove up the flow sheet for their specific application. I think ZEN has provided the basis for anyone interested to come forth and do some of their own DD by maybe spending a bit of their own money. ZEN has brought everyone to the gold level, if one requires the platinum level then front some of your own money. I don't think this is out of line thinking. How much do we need to spoon feed? I'm sure some arrangement to this end could be achieved but again this is all just my opinion. Oh and by the way, I'm still awaiting your reply to my last private message. Happy Thanksgiving to all our American friends and investors. the deputy