ALTON, apology accepted. Regarding Charlie,he's that kind of guy. He knows he can't commit to anything unless it's in an 8 or 10K report. Once he and Frank fully realize that the boys and girls of Agoracom, single handedly shephered this entire project through to fruition (Oh, OK--with a little help from some friends) they will gladly "spring " for the party (IN NYC) to show their appreciation for us not bailing along with those other scroundrels that did. Just go back to the early messages on Agoracom. Those guys either bailed out (they kept the price low because of their "girly,girl" selling) or they died waiting through the changing of the guards at the MOT.As far as hosting, that's gotta be the Mad Irishman ,Frank supported by "HIS" Ed McMahon--Charlie. Sooooo host I'm not, but given the chance, ROAST, I shall----Bill--VP.-- P.S. Clarkster, thanx,I think, for your garbled and somewhat back handed congrats.